John McGinn is a 22-year-old central midfield player. He is contracted to Hibernian until the end of the 2019 season. Transfermarkt values him at €550,000.
This report considers McGinn’s performance against Celtic 30th September 2017.
Unfamiliar terms (CAT Score, “packing”, xA, xSC etc) can be resolved in my de-discombobulater, also known as a Glossary.
Defensive Performance
Hibernian deployed a man to man marking system out of possession. McGinn tracked Rogic in the first half, and McGregor in the second. McGinn played central and rarely moved outside the width of the two penalty boxes except to cover the advanced left full back, Stevenson.
Defensive Statistics
McGinn’s Defensive Action Success Rate (DASR) of 67% was higher than any of the Celtic midfielders. For example, Ntcham was 50% whilst Hayes, stationed at left back in the second half, was 52%.
McGinn was twice caught in possession by Rogic in central defensive positions. One of those occurrences resulted in a shot on target. Celtic’s Expected Goals from those errors was 0.054.
Key Defensive Actions – 1st Half
- 2m – anticipates Celtic pass out of defence and dispossesses Ntcham in the centre of Celtic defensive half.
- 3m – dispossesses Lustig in Celtic right back position.
- 18m – gets caught in possession in the centre of his own half because he won’t take the simple pass back or sideways and dallied on the ball. This allows Celtic a transition attack against a disorganised defence. Rogic cuts inside him and gets a shot on target.
- 20m – Rogic sends ball down line and Forrest cross is cleared. Defending the rebound, Rogic runs off McGinn to get secondary shot, McGinn caught on his heels.
- 22m – makes press decisions based on position of ball and what passing channels he can disrupt – e.g. switching towards Ntcham and leaving Rogic wide right to deal with the immediate threat.
- 23m – chased Rogic’s pass to win a tackle – a good press decision. Won challenge then played very difficult pass and gave the ball away again.
- 26m – covers the advanced left back Stevenson.
- 29m – Rogic able to gain a yard on him and pass inside him just outside box.
- 38m – good anticipation to intercept a pass to Edouard, followed by a driving run and pass.
Rogic was marked throughout by McGinn. He completed 18 passes, only giving the ball away once. McGinn’s close presence meant Rogic’s passes were often backwards. The Australian played 0 key passes. Rogic only played 1 “pack” pass, linking with Forrest in the 20th minute to take out 2 Hibernian players. He had 2 possessions in the box. Rogic won 3 out of 8 tackles, retaining possession 5 times.
Both Rogic shots in the half were as a result of McGinn errors.
Key Defensive Actions – 2nd Half
- 58m – caught in possession allowing a Celtic break.
- 60m – loses McGregor and is “packed” by a Lustig pass.
- 70m – lets McGregor run off him, leading to a shot off target.
- 79m – Roberts runs past him without a challenge. The equaliser results from the subsequent corner.
- 81m – fouls Roberts on edge of box.
Man marking McGregor, the Celtic midfielder completed 24 passes with 5 incomplete. Having possession only once in the box, he nevertheless scored from this, although McGinn was shadowing Rogic from the corner. McGregor had 2 shots in the 2nd half, and did not provide any key passes. McGregor was not involved with any challenges in the 2nd half.
Attacking Performance
He is predominantly left footed and can be characterised as a box-to-box midfielder.
In possession, McGinn looked to get forward quickly to support the three advanced Hibernian forwards. His first instinct with any pass is to play it forward. He is also willing and able to run with the ball long distances at speed, relying on pace and directness rather than trickery or skill.
Attacking Statistics
McGinn’s 27 completed passes is the same as Rogic managed, although he also gave 11 open play passes and 3 set piece passes away. 67% pass completion would have been lower than every Celtic player other than Griffiths.
No other player provided as many Key Passes – the nearest being 3 by Stokes. His Expected Assists (xA) was 0.517 from those chances, the highest of the game.
33% of his passes took out at least 1 opponents, higher than any Celtic player. His 9 pack passes scored an Impect of 49, behind only Tierney of Celtic on 62.
Although McGinn scored 2 goals, both were from outside the box and would attract an xG value of 0.105. Both were fine left foot finishes however. McGinn has never scored more than 4 goals in a single league campaign. His goals here were his first of the season. Over his career, McGinn averages 0.08 goals per 90m.
His overall Impect score of 62 matched top Celt, Tierney.
CAT Score measures overall creative and scoring threat. 12 is a very high score, above the average for any Celtic player this season. The top Celtic CAT score in this match was McGregor with 6. Similarly, his xSC (Expected Scoring Contribution) of 0.622 was higher than all Celtic players, whose best was Hayes on 0.370.
It should be note that McGinn’s career Scoring Contribution (assists and goals per 90m) is 0.24 with 15 goals and 28 assists in the equivalent of 182 full 90m appearances. This is similar to the current career statistics of Ntcham.
Key Attacking Action 1st Half
- General – 4 of his first 5 passes not completed – all forward and ambitious passes
- 19m – gets into box for 1st time and has a header over the bar
- 38m – good anticipating and interception on pass to Edouard, then driving run and pass
- General – Does prefer to move the ball quickly
Key Attacking Action 2nd Half
- 52m – positive run in central midfield, spins away from a challenge and drives centrally drawing a free kick.
- 53m – lurking centrally as Celtic look to clear and alert to Bartley’s lay off. A great finish with left foot low into corner from outside box.
- 60m – drives from edge of own box over half way and Ntcham brings him down for YC.
- 62m – clever wait and time of pass releases Boyle leading to a dangerous situation for Slivka in box.
- 65m – gambled as was wrong side of McGregor defensively but got ball allowing attack to be set.
- 71m – run forward from covering Stevenson at left back, across pitch gains 10 yards, sucks players in then switches ball to right allows cross into box.
- 72m – poor shot selection from long range with low probability effort, when 5 players in support expecting pass.
- 77m – intelligent movement and anticipation to pick up ball outside box from Lustig clear – he is unmarked (McGregor does not track), rifles superb shot high into roof of net.
Strengths
Weaknesses
Summary
Two goals were certainly eye catching, although perhaps misleading as to the type of player he is. Perhaps in a dominant team like Celtic, there would be greater overall goal threat. But principally McGinn seems to be able to fulfil many midfield jobs well. Combative, disciplined, energetic, with stamina, creative and dangerous shooting from distance, oh and good dribbling skills.
The defensive “switching off” and leaving runners is a concern, whilst the pass and shot selection concerns can be improved through coaching.
McGinn impressed me more that I was anticipating.
Con O'Brien says
I was shouted down at a Scout/ Coaches meeting in 2007 when I recommended John McGinn for a possible target. Too wee, we have better players, etc. He was a wee right back with St. Mirren who had the tenacity of a bull terrier and could get up and down the park easily. He was playing under 12s but the ability was easy to see. I was bombed out after Tommy Burns died and left thinking what could have been? ???
celticbynumbers@btinternet.com says
Thank you for that insight. I hope nowadays anyone dismissing a young player for being “too wee” is instantly dismissed. Players develop physically at different ages – you know this.
One thought – if he’d been at Celtic would he have racked up 187 games worth of minutes by age 22? Probably not.
Secondly, given your background, was this article anything like useful from a scouting perspective? I would value your open and honest feedback – good and bad, and any improvements and additional areas to consider. Appreciate that.
H the purist says
I watch a lot of academy pro youth football (under 11s and 12s) and sense that players are often not played in what seems to me to be their best, or better, positions. Proper football players, with a good first touch, quick feet, awareness and ability to see (and weight) a pass, can be overlooked for bigger, apparently faster or stronger (I say apparently because I don’t think this is actually tested in many teams at that age) boys – when balance, ability to move, acceleration over the first 2-3 yards, desire (and ability) to keep the ball and not rush unnecessarily are all far more important indicators of both actual ability and potential. The effectiveness of teams suffers because some kids are preferred in certain positions, play these guys where it matters most instead of at the peripherally and you see the whole team functioning better, ball possesssion retained more, proper build up rather than batter it forward. Get these potential players who show football understanding and technical ability, who don’t necessarily “show” obviously in games where the coach often sets teams up in a way that favours/plays “down” to strength, apparent straight line pace, size etc, rather than plays “up” to innate understanding, touch, clever but subtle movement etc, together with a good and unbiased patient coach and you will see boys coming through more consistently. Get QP’s u-12 coach to Lennoxtown as he knows what he’s doing and can make average players better – what would he do with a team full of better footballers?
celticbynumbers@btinternet.com says
Apologies for not replying sooner to your considered post.
A number of interesting points in your post.
1. I’ve always thought players at ages you mention should not be tied to a position but play a variety of positions to improve spatial awareness, decision making, use of space, and both feet.
2. An FA coach who ran a coaching course I was on said that most players who end up playing at a high level played central midfield as kids. This is almost the inverse of what you said in that the “better” players got to play central mid where you have to read all sides of the game, make more decisions and have most space left, right, front and back. Would other players have developed more if they had the opportunity to play central mid?
3. Fully agree that players at that young age should be playing with minimal pressure other than to listen, learn, show good attitude and show demonstrable development.
In summary I think where kids play positionally has a massive impact on future development which is why they should be allowed to learn the game through the eyes of many position as per the Dutch model.